Why, When and How Ali Abunimah Asked Me To Lie For The Cause? (the full transcript)

Introduction by Gilad Atzmon: 

On 30^th November 2010 Abunimah wrote to me:

“What you describe as ‘Jewish’ might perhaps be more accurately described as ‘Zionist,’ – and then we might find grounds for a lot of agreement.”

It doesn’t take a genius to grasp meaning of the quote above. Abunimah advised me to misinform my readers and my listeners in return for possible  ‘political support’. He wanted me to buy into the same Jewish progressive mantra that diverts the attention from that critical Jewish ideology and culture that drives the Jewish State and its powerful Lobby. It’s all pretty clear but one question still comes to mind - why would a Palestinian invest so much time and energy into protecting the Jewish state from such an essential and crucial criticism?  

Yesterday, desperate to appease his Zionist detractors and Left Jewish supporters,  Abunimah published the entire exchange between us on the Electronic Intifada in the hope that someone out there might interpret his words as he wishes them to be interpreted. It didn’t happen, in fact, he achieved the opposite and only proved I was telling the truth.

I was very glad to read my words on Electronic Intifada since this is the first time that this pro-Palestinian site aired any criticism of Jewish identity politics and in retrospect, reading my words made me very proud. I saw a principled and persistent argument based on an informed analysis of the situation in Israel, Palestine and beyond. And, I like to think that it is precisely this aspect of my work that unites Dershowitz, Blumenthal, Foxman and  Abunimah into a united anti Atzmon task force.

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Is he a compulsive liar?

Ali Abunimah wrote today: 

"In November 2010, I was invited to speak at a conference in Stuttgart, Germany on the one-state solution. Atzmon apparently invited himself to this conference and somehow parlayed his way onto the stage to give what was called a “greeting.”

Look at the following  video and judge for yourself, does it look as if your truly invades the stage by force?

And if I 'parlayed my way onto the stage' as Abunimah suggests, why did the conference decided to publish my talk? Surely, Abunimah and a few others tried to prevent it. 

Just to redeem Abunima of his compulsion. I will publish here my invitation to the Stuttgart conference:

On  20 November 2010 Attia Raja, the head of Palestine Committee Stuttgart,  wrote to me:

Dear Gilad,
Thank you that you are prepared to come to the Palestine-Solidarity-Conference in Stuttgart. We are glad to welcome you. As you can see in the programme it is very compact.But we would be glad to give you time for a greeting speech of maximum ten minutes before the next panel starts on Saturday at 2.15 pm. We hope you will understand our situation and we should be glad to invite you soon for a concert with a complete speech.
With best wishes
Attia

Ali Abunimah obviosly knows all of that. But i wonder, is it possible that he is tormented by the fact that the youtube clip of my talk in Stuttgart had twice more viewers than the entire conference put together? 

Abunimah continues:

"When he spoke, I (and many others at the conference) found Atzmon’s comments disturbing because he appeared to be blaming Jews as Jews for the conflict in Palestine"

Abunimah is unfortunately lying again. there is not a single reference to 'Jews as Jews' in my entire talk or in any of my writings. A scholarly  study of my talk in Stuttgart revealed that my talk was well within the boundaries of legitimacy.

Is it possible that Ali Abuimah has given up  on truth, is he now a compulsive liar?

 "The first thing I did the next day" write Abuinimah, "when it was my turn to speak, was to object publicly to Atzmon’s statements". What Abunimah forgot to tell his audience is that his laughable 'objection' was debunked by Cambrige Academic Blake Alcott. and also by me in the following video.

The real question here is why is he lying? People always lie for a reason. Who does he try to save? Is it the people in Gaza or Jenin? I doubt it...

Ali Abunimah is probably not a racist, BUT………

Just came across this piece by Roy Bard

http://failedproject.me/?p=20

By failedproject

The birth of Israel involved a grave injustice to the Palestinians. The continued existence of Israel perpetuates that injustice. A strong lobby, dominated by Jews, but not exclusively Jewish, helps to perpetuate the injustice, by attacking those who feel compelled to speak out against the original and ongoing injustice. Despite many a career and reputation being ruined for pro-Palestinian stances,  many who love the ideas of Justice and Liberty continue to stand for Palestine, and continue to be attacked for it……

Today the spotlight is on Ali Abunimah, of whom Gilad Atzmon may have said:

“Ali has managed to take the intifada and make it into an electronic blog.

Ali’s name appears at the top of the list of signatories who called for the Disavowal of Gilad Atzmon, which led to a presumption that Ali was the author of that call.  In defending himself, Ali today let slip that he was not the author……..

Although I would have been proud to claim that credit, unfortunately I cannot. Nonetheless, when asked to sign, I did so without hesitation.

So, now the scenario is fraught with irony after irony……. in defending himself against a  baseless claim of racism, Ali reminds us that he himself was part of another baseless claim of racism against Gilad. From my reading of Gilad, there is no claim of any racial characteristics unique to Jews, rather Gilad argues that Jewish identity  is the product of ideology and that for anyone who is not religious, it may well be best to step away from that identity, and to join the other actors as a Universalist.  If anyone is in danger of characterising Jewishness as a racial trait, it seems it may well be Ali himself, and he really doesn’t want to go there…….

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Abunimah, Rosenberg, Anti-semitism and Dishonesty

By Gilad Atzmon 

In the last few days blogger M. Jay Rosenberg came to the conclusion that Electronic Ali Abunimah is an anti-semite. Rosenberg's accusation is clearly unsubstantiated. Ali Abunimah is not an anti-semite. Dishonest? More likely.

Rosenberg writes, “let me explain why I consider Ali Abunimah to be anti-semitic…Ali Abunimah refers to Israelis as Zionists,.. but then he makes clear, over and over again, that Zionists are all bad people. Just go to his twitter feed and read the labels he uses for Zionists..’

Rosenberg is obviously uninformed.  More and more commentators and scholars accept that Israelis are not Zionists, they are actually the product of the Zionist project. Most Israelis do not even understand what Zionism stands for. Zionism is the promise to bring about a Jewish national home. Once the Jewish State was founded (1948) Zionism finished its role as far as Israeli Jews are concerned. Thus, Zionism is now largely a Jewish Diaspora discourse. Accordingly, the debate between Zionists and the so-called ‘anti-’ has little relevance to Israeli politics or practice.  In short, Rosenberg is wrong, yet why Abunimah misleads his readers, referring to Israelis as Zionists, remains unclear.   

Abunimah may not be the most sophisticated theoretical commentator around, but he certainly monitors Israeli society and understands its politics.

Abunimah refers to ‘Israelis’ as ‘Zionists’ only because his operation is sustained financially and politically by Jewish ‘anti-Zionists’ and the Jewish Left. Abunimah refers to Israelis as ‘Zionists’ only because he knows that telling the truth, uttering the ‘J’ word, may cost him dearly. 

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Gilad Atzmon - No Jewish racial continuum from ancient time (video)

Former Israeli Navy chief detained at Heathrow

Ynet just reported that commander of Israeli Navy during Operation Cast Lead and raid on Gaza-bound Marmara ship held for questioning upon arrival in UK

 Maj.-Gen. (res.) Eli Marom, who served as the commander of the Israeli Navy during Operation Cast Lead and during the raid on the Gaza-bound Mavi Marmara vessel, was held for questioning at around noon Monday at London's Heathrow Airport upon his arrival in Britain.

Israel war criminal beware!!!

The Milibands, The BBC And The Proletariat

By Gilad Atzmon

Last week, The Daily Mail’s expose of Ralph Militant’s political views provoked strong reactions from the Miliband family, the Labour Party, The Guardian and the BBC.

The Mail article included a few quotes by Ralph Miliband, showing Miliband to be a radical cosmopolitan Marxist. So what else is new?  Throughout his entire adult life Ralph had indeed been a radical cosmopolitan devoted to ‘progressive’ international working class politics and naturally opposed to any nationalism and local patriotism. However The Daily Mail was soon to learn, at its cost, that elaborating on the non-patriotic nature intrinsic to cosmopolitanism is practically forbidden in 2013 ‘free’ Britain.

The Mail revealed that in 1940, when Ralph was 17-year-old he wrote in his diary: “The Englishman is a rabid nationalist. They are perhaps the most nationalist people in the world…you sometimes want them almost to lose (the war) to show them how things are. They have the greatest contempt for the Continent…To lose their empire would be the worst possible humiliation.” Well, I’d guess that many 17 year old Marxists at that time could have expressed such views. But Miliband remained a devoted Marxist into adulthood and indeed for his whole life and maintained this cosmopolitan ideology into old age right up to his death. This may be unusual but it is not a crime.

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My One and Only Love — Book Review

http://www.boldfacenews.com/one-love-book-review/

Amazon.co.uk

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Of Showbiz Kings and Kosher Pigs with Wings

My One and Only Love is a wild romp through the vast expanse of Gilad Atzmon’s imagination that leaves you breathless with laughter.

If you read Atzmon’s Guide to the Perplexed you are familiar with his satire power, if you read The Wandering Who? you know his philosophy, humanism and unflinching quest for truth and beauty, wherever it leads.

This book reveals other facets of Atzmon’s talent. One is his humor, of Rabelaisian robustness, life-afirming even in sarcastic wit, often reminiscent of Bukowsky. Nothing human is alien to him nor taboo and barred from examination: beauty, ugliness, sexuality, greed, pretense, opportunism, nationalistic cant, hypocrisy and, of course, as expected from the pioneer of the Jewish identity syndrome studies, Jewish supremacism.
Another is his memorable delineation of characters, not two-dimensional cardboard effigies but live incarnations of Israeli typology, each with his or her individual voice and diction.

There is Avrum, the showbiz entrepreneur, resourceful “fixer” always looking for a “combina” to make some “lokshen,” while patriotically helping “Long Arm,” the feared Israeli intelligence service, to abduct a Nazi war criminal from South America by hiding him in a “Gulliver violin case.”

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Yossi Gurvitz: On Jewish 'Ethics' (must watch)

Israeli writer Yossi Gurvitz on genocide, child abuse, the Goy hatred,  the Torah, the Talmud and Israel..

Jews Are Not a Race But Jewish Identity is Racist

By Gilad Atzmon

We were informed this week that the four major female founders of the Ashkenazis show roots in Europe 10,000 to 20,000 years ago. So do most of the minor founders, the study found. Only 8% of the mitochondrial DNA shows signs of being from the Near East.

Gil Atzmon, of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, who led the research, argued that there had been some evidence of mass conversions, especially of women, to Judaism throughout the Mediterranean in the past. That resulted in about 6 million citizens, or a tenth of the Roman population, who were Jewish.  

The practical meaning of this information is simple and far from being new. Ashkenazi Jews are not Semitic and have no roots in Palestine. Needless to say that neither Alan Dershowitz nor Max Blumenthal or myself look particularly oriental. So if Jews are neither a race nor Semitic what is it that bonds them together? The answer is an extreme form of tribal ethnocentrism AKA racism. In short, Jews are not a race but Jewish secular culture is racist to the bone.

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